Talk:Classical Arabic
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[edit]The article says Classical Arabic was used between the "8th and 10th centuries". This is incorrect and problematic as this raises the question of what register of Arabic was used between the 11th-19th centuries before the rise of MSA.
The Wikipedia for Classical Arabic says: "Classical Arabic or Quranic Arabic is the standardized literary form of Arabic used from the 7th century and throughout the Middle Ages", and most scholars agree Classical Arabic was used up until the late 19th century at the very latest. Jafroni (talk) 18:41, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Jafroni: Post-classical Arabic. Before that pre-classical Arabic. This is a traditional understanding, and translation of مُوَلَّد (muwallad), otherwise how could it be in Lane’s dictionary based (at least indirectly) on the lexicography of the Earlier Medieval epoch, for illustration. Note also the term Middle Arabic many people have come to like.
- You can argue for a (loose) sense though, and in some sense it is true that the older language has to be “used” by continuation as soon as one has a literary standard. I know that modern linguists do that; most are a bit weak in chronolects, in contradistinction to 19th-century philologers who completely ignored the modern dialects, to say nothing about most people with no historical philological academic background; it does not scale up to an international level even however, so that for the German equivalents (
vorklassisches Arabisch, klassisches Arabisch, nachklassisches Arabisch) you find a greater share of what is given here as the strict sense. - Wikipedia usually cites the same databases for alleged languages, which depend on each other in circles and contend ghost languages. They care less because they never sight the primary materials (I may exaggerate). Per Wiktionary:Language treatment and Wiktionary:What Wiktionary is not we explicitly look at the core of the matter, achieving greater accuracy in cross-language comparison and reliability in translation. Fay Freak (talk) 20:47, 29 November 2024 (UTC)