Talk:BIPOC

Earlier citations

If this initialism indeed dates from the early 2010s, can we find earlier examples of its use in print than 2017 and 2019? 173.88.246.138 14:10, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

"And" people of colour?

@Equinox Our current US definition of of color is just "non-white", which would include blacks, and, in a US context, "indigenous" people, so the definition you gave seems to be equivalent to just saying "people of color". Could it actually just mean "black or indigeneous people of color", excluding everyone else? But then I don't understand why the "POC" gets tacked on at the end.__Gamren (talk) 23:24, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

@Gamren: Yeah, if you work out what these social-justice people mean by any words at all then do let me know. Equinox ◑ 13:59, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

@Equinox, Gamren: I can attest to the accuracy of the current definition. This article by a Nambé Pueblo Indian woman might provide some helpful background as to what drove the formation of the acronym. Edit: I would also add that the New York Times article that is linked to in the entry also provides some notable background. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 21:28, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Dictionary.com now has two definitions to account for this seeming discrepancy. However, I can't actually find any CFI-compliant cites for the one that we lack. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 06:12, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

We could say "...and other people of color", like some cites do, to avoid redundancy. My understanding (like Dictionary.com's) is that the redundancy is for emphasis, though. I'm not aware of a "Black and Indigenous POC" sense; google books:"Black and Indigenous People of Color" gets a few hits, but the only one which uses the acronym seems to have intended an "and" because the author includes Puerto Ricans. - -sche (discuss) 08:07, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

@-sche: I think your edits look good. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 18:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)