Talk:Alice in Wonderland
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Sure this is an adjective not a noun used attributively? Fugyoo 02:32, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- It's already listed as one! Equinox ◑ 02:47, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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Apparently an adjective. The citations just seem to use the proper noun attributively. Not any different to "Michael Jackson" in "Michael Jackson voice". Mglovesfun (talk) 10:36, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- Does this prove that it's an adjective or can it still be a noun in that usage? --WikiTiki89 (talk) 11:13, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'd tend to say yes, it does support an adjective sense. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- You have to be careful about the construction "more x than y", where x and y are nouns and one is stating which one the referent resembles most. There do seem to be a couple of true comparatives, though Chuck Entz (talk) 12:33, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think in "the construction 'more x than y', where x and y are nouns and one is stating which one the referent resembles most", x and y would be acting like adjectives. There is one thing I do know to be careful about which is noun constructions like "Vodka has more water than ethanol." (which is also a good example of the ambiguity of than), but that construction did not show up at all. --WikiTiki89 (talk) 13:02, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- Are you sure? The ability to add articles, modifiers, etc. makes me think that it's more nouns acting like nouns than nouns acting like adjectives: "He's more an American than a European". "She's more a friend than a lover". "That's more purplish blue than bluish purple" Chuck Entz (talk) 13:46, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- I have three explanations for that:
- It is a noun phrase being used adjectivally.
- more is modifying is
- It's really "more of" but the of is dropped.
- --WikiTiki89 (talk) 13:57, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- I have three explanations for that:
- Are you sure? The ability to add articles, modifiers, etc. makes me think that it's more nouns acting like nouns than nouns acting like adjectives: "He's more an American than a European". "She's more a friend than a lover". "That's more purplish blue than bluish purple" Chuck Entz (talk) 13:46, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think in "the construction 'more x than y', where x and y are nouns and one is stating which one the referent resembles most", x and y would be acting like adjectives. There is one thing I do know to be careful about which is noun constructions like "Vodka has more water than ethanol." (which is also a good example of the ambiguity of than), but that construction did not show up at all. --WikiTiki89 (talk) 13:02, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
How about these:
- 2008, Lisa Margonelli, Oil on the Brain: Petroleum's Long, Strange Trip to Your Tank, p. 68:
- This is all a little more Alice in Wonderland than I had expected.
- 2008, Gordon Stobart, Testing Times, p. 137:
- What gives this an even more Alice-in-Wonderland feel is that the Average Yearly Progress targets are based on what must be done to achieve this impossible goal...
- 2002, Alan Stripp, Codebreaker in the Far East, p. 35:
- It became more Alice in Wonderland all the time: was I now to navigate as well?
- 1984, Great Britain, Parliament, House of Commons, Parliamentary debates: Official report, Volume 75, p. 335:
- Members with a fascination for the horrid to look at the explanatory memorandum, which deals with fresh fruit and vegetables. It discloses the most Alice-in- Wonderland situation ever.
Cheers! bd2412 T 20:57, 26 October 2012 (UTC)