Talk:-ino

English Ety2.2: Ironic use

(Internet slang, 4chan, derogatory) Used to mock progressives through association with DoggoLingo.

I don't want to get in a revert war here so I'm using the talk page. I really don't see the relevance of "political undertones" mentioned in @Ioaxxere's reversion. Shouldn't we then add a definition for hecking as ironically used by 4chan? That also has political undertones of mocking progressives. The answer here is clearly no, but there's no difference between the two other than the fact that they are different words and parts of speech. I don't see why ironic uses of other definitions count as their own definitions. If you really want this to be here, it should probably go in Usage notes. Jodi1729 (talk) 17:16, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Well I think it's significant that sense 2 is used in contexts not related to DoggoLingo and added to words that wouldn't normally take the suffix (as in the quotes). If you'd like, I wouldn't be opposed to a usage note. Ioaxxere (talk) 20:36, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Definitely support @Jodi1729. The first use is obviously not limited to "DogLingo" if that's even a single defined thing; we aren't UrbanDictionary; 4chan shouldn't have its own tag here; and having one just invites a wave of nonsense. xD Is there any special reason to carefully document 'pwn the libs'-speech at all, aside from the general information that lets people translate it when encountered?

To my mind, it should just be handled as a general informal diminutive and the rest can be handled in cites or usage notes. — LlywelynII 21:31, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Just to clarify, if Category:DoggoLingo has that many items and it's most recognized under that name, sure, we keep that and, sure, we tag pupperino as (DoggoLingo). The suffix itself is just obviously in more general English use for forming other diminutives (as seen eg in the 4chan case). That should be especially the case if pupperino is the only time the suffix has been used for dog slang/dogspeak/goodboynese/whatever.

Similarly, if the 4chan usage is a fully legit suffix, that means the terms formed with it are fully legit terms worthy of inclusion. Surely that's not what the original editor wanted (?) or they would've created entries at bat souperino, heckin lives that matterino, heckin trayvon martinorino, fair trialarino, &c. — LlywelynII 21:54, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

"Related terms"

{{rel4 |en |sfermion |smatter |sparticle |supersymmetry }}

was provided as a list under the physics sense despite clearly having no linguistic relationship at all. If the idea was that these are all physics terms, that should be handled as a category or subcategory issue I would think.

If the idea was that the s- prefix is somehow distinguished in reference to the -ino suffix, 1st, that would be coordinate terms but, 2nd, these aren't coordinate terms for this entry. They're just a list of words that are the coordinate terms that should be only each -ino word's separate page. Yes, the s- prefix should be a coordinate term here but that was already being handled by the note on the definition. I'll reformat to this version though. — LlywelynII 21:46, 9 June 2023 (UTC)