Talk:開始

khui-sí

@Mlgc1998 You say khui-sí personally? I've never heard it ever. Mar vin kaiser (talk) 23:50, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

@Mar vin kaiser ha? you've never heard that? I usually remember hearing it from some old women like some middle aged women relatives or maybe my sien-si tutor before or maybe also some old women stall vendor before. I remember this word from the voice of an old or middle aged woman I've heard of before, like di khui-si tshong or in khui-si lai or some such. I asked my dad this morning now "ano khui-si?" he said "khui-si? umpisa." Then, he started using it later while he talked about stuff. It's one of those average everyday words I've often heard of elsewhere or in my family, people interchange in their speech, sometimes one uses khai-si, then the same person uses khui-si a few mins or some hours later for the same idea. Mlgc1998 (talk) 00:22, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

@Mlgc1998: I see. Let me ask around. (Just goes to show that we have many subvarieties even within our Filipino-Chinese community in Metro Manila. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 15:35, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

@Mar vin kaiser yeah, I bet it's kind of like the difference among Hokkien varieties in Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan, Malaysia, where there are common words due to common country/Sprachraum, history, and overall perception of one community, with a sort of polarities due to the family origins to the historical places in Southern Fujian but people also intermarried and intermixed their speech since they heard and thought some words and how its said are equally possible or interchangeable under one language as this and that too are "Hokkien", but unlike Taiwan with a big north to south and coastal to inland spectrum facing from the Taiwan Strait, the big Hokkien spectrum south of Taiwan is instead the entire Maritime Southeast Asia (Malay Peninsula(Malaya + Southern Thailand) + Malay Archipelago) facing from the South China Sea with the:

• Northeastern region (with Quanzhou descendants) as:
  • the Philippine archipelago
  • spreading to East Malaysian & Bruneian Borneo and Singapore
  • possibly Indonesian Kalimantan, Sulawesi, to Java as well
• Central region (with Amoy-Tung'an descendants) as:
  • Singapore
  • Malaysian Johor to Klang Valley or most of Selangor state
  • probably a similar spread from Singapore to the northern coasts of West Malaysia Malaya region from Johor to Terengganu
  • Indonesian Riau Islands, Riau province of Sumatra to Jambi and maybe sparsely Bangka Belitung Islands
  • probably Java island, particularly among Betawi Malay speakers around Jakarta and likely towards Surabaya
  • East Malaysian & Bruneian Borneo
  • Sulu Archipelago, spreading sparsely to Zamboanga peninsula, Cagayan de Oro (CdO), Cotabato City, Metro Davao, Dumaguete, Metro Cebu, Bacolod, and perhaps also some in Metro Manila
• Southwestern region (with Zhangzhou descendants) that historically were also historically present in the above regions before venturing further southwestwards is now around:
  • North Sumatra to Aceh in Sumatra of Indonesia where Medan Hokkien is spoken
  • the Western states of Malaya (West Malaysia) from western parts of Selangor in the Klang Valley to the state of Penang, Perak, Kedah, and Perlis where Penang Hokkien is spoken
  • Southern Thailand where Malay speakers live around the historical Patani region (Pattani, Yala province, Narathiwat province) and also in Satun province, Songkhla, and Phuket
  • the northern coasts of Malaya in Kelantan and Terengganu where Hokkien Kelantan, a mixed Hokkien, Southern Thai, Kelantan-Pattani Malay pidgin, is also codeswitched like Hokaglish.
  • the southern coasts of Myanmar somewhat around Yangon and surrounding southern areas.
  • possibly sparse spread through to Singapore, Malaysian Selangor state to Johor, and Indonesian Riau province of Sumatra to Jambi and Riau Islands

All of these areas being spraypainted linguistic islands among each family sometimes meeting together in churches, temples, schools, markets, businesses, organizations, cemeteries, malls, online, etc. Mlgc1998 (talk) 06:20, 12 February 2024 (UTC)