Talk:触腕
Add topicLatest comment: 6 years ago by Metaknowledge
@Eirikr, Suzukaze-c, Fumiko Take, Atitarev: Please check this Foreign Word of the Day candidate if you can. It would be great if you could take a look at the translation and romaji (especially spacing) of the quote to ensure it's correct. Also, the definition probably needs tweaking ― it appears this term is also applicable to the cuttlefish, and the two longer things may just be called "tentacles", in contrast to the other eight shorter ones, which are "arms" (squid). Wyang (talk) 10:35, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
- I'm having a go at it. The etym is unclear to me -- this term seems to be quite rare in Japanese, as Daijirin, Shogakukan's Kokugo Dai Jiten, NHK's Hatsuon Jiten, and Jim Breen's EDICT don't list this at all. Kokugo Dai Jiten and Daijirin both include the term in their definitions for 烏賊 (ika, “squid”), but lack any entry for 触腕 itself. Daijisen does have it (here at Kotobank), as does one of Breen's more specialized dictionaries (here). I also find it in one of my specialized J-E medical dictionaries, 和英医学用語大辞典 (Wa-Ei Igaku Yōgo Dai Jiten, “Big J-E Dictionary of Medical Terms”, Nichigai Associates, 1990).
- I cannot find much about the origins of this word. @Wyang, can you tell if this term has any longer history in Chinese than, say, the late 1800s? Or was this term another Meij-era Japanese coinage? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 06:02, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Eirikr Thank you! I did not find anything in the Classical Chinese corpora I searched. It definitely looks like a recent coinage, possibly of Japanese origin. Wyang (talk) 06:42, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for assembling people to work on this entry. Could you finish up with the etymology so it can be featured? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:43, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Μετάknowledge, I've plugged in what I can based on our collective findings above. Does that cover things adequately? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 06:08, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
- I think that works. Thanks! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 09:46, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Μετάknowledge, I've plugged in what I can based on our collective findings above. Does that cover things adequately? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 06:08, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for assembling people to work on this entry. Could you finish up with the etymology so it can be featured? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:43, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Eirikr Thank you! I did not find anything in the Classical Chinese corpora I searched. It definitely looks like a recent coinage, possibly of Japanese origin. Wyang (talk) 06:42, 28 November 2017 (UTC)