Talk:漢服

neologism claim

(Withdrawn) 02:18, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Google Books has two pages of results from 1980-1999, but they are almost entirely all about government officials historically wearing 汉服, as opposed to the 服 of barbarians. 🤔 —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 03:13, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

• @Geographyinitiative, Suzukaze-c I do not understand the claim that is being made here. I have not seen it reflected in the indigenous lexicography. Baidu Baike lists plenty of citations in premodern texts: 长沙马王堆出土的西汉简牍：“简四四‘美人四人，其二人楚服，二人汉服’"。《蛮书》：“裳人，本汉人也。部落在铁桥北，不知迁徙年月。初袭汉服，后稍参诸戎风俗，迄今但朝霞缠头，其余无异。”《新唐书》：“汉裳蛮，本汉人部种，在铁桥。惟以朝霞缠头，余尚同汉服。” etc. ---> Tooironic (talk) 00:51, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Neologism?

@Geographyinitiative, Suzukaze-c, Tooironic: What's the evidence for this being a neologism? Various premodern attestations (not just from China!) for "clothing characteristic of the Han Chinese". I think it should be brought back to this sense.--Tibidibi (talk) 15:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

See above. On further thought, I feel that there is a distinction to be made between rigid scholarly discussion of "clothes of the Han people" and the modern popular 復古 clothing style. —Suzukaze-c (talk) 23:42, 1 June 2021 (UTC)