Talk:征西将军
Add topicLatest comment: 13 years ago by Jamesjiao in topic Definition
Definition
[edit]The definition is a bit unclear. Was this an actual named person, or a position held by various people over the years? 71.66.97.228 00:49, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
- 'twas a very bad definition. Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 01:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help with the definition. I wasn't very happy with it either. I had originally copied the wording from the 2008 version of the Government of the Han Dynasty Wikipedia article. Unfortunately, the nice tables they had back then were later stripped out, so my logic for using the definition (consistency with the Wikipedia article) went away. I managed to find a new reference, but couldn't think of a better definition at the time. I may work on this one some more, since I will be adding 征北將軍 and 征東將軍 within the next day or so. -- A-cai 01:53, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
- Please do. These are all valid non sop terms. Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 23:17, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help with the definition. I wasn't very happy with it either. I had originally copied the wording from the 2008 version of the Government of the Han Dynasty Wikipedia article. Unfortunately, the nice tables they had back then were later stripped out, so my logic for using the definition (consistency with the Wikipedia article) went away. I managed to find a new reference, but couldn't think of a better definition at the time. I may work on this one some more, since I will be adding 征北將軍 and 征東將軍 within the next day or so. -- A-cai 01:53, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
It's an interesting title--did the "West" refer to Gansu? And they kept the title even after Gansu had been conquered? I guess the title might have been needed over the centuries because the Chinese had to keep conquering western China again and again, as various non-Chinese peoples tried to take that area back. 71.66.97.228 01:59, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
- You're probably not too far off the mark. The 四征將軍 article provides some background on these terms. I'll probably end up including that information in an etymology section. I also have a book (if I can find it) that explains these rankings. -- A-cai 02:20, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Ah, one for the Di, one for the Man, one for the Yi, and one for the Rong. There should be an en:WP article on this as well. 71.66.97.228 02:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)