Talk:変梃

RFC discussion: January 2018–July 2020

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変梃

Don't know whether this should be the main entry.--Zcreator (talk) 19:22, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

FWIW, the kanji spelling is listed as the lemma form in the majority of the monolingual JA-JA dictionaries I've referenced -- Shogakukan's KDJ, Daijisen, Daijirin online. Shinmeikai and Daijirin non-online list the lemma at hiragana spelling へんてこ, noting that kanji spelling 変梃 is also valid. Shogakukan's KDJ usage examples all use the hiragana spelling. No source I can find lists the lemma at the katakana spelling ヘンテコ.

Additionally, our katakana entry at ヘンテコ is a soft redirect pointing users to 変梃, which (prior to Zcreator's recent edit) was a hard redirect back to ヘンテコ. This kind of circular redirection is less than ideal. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 19:45, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

@Eirikr, want to move the lemma as you see fit so we can close this discussion? —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 09:18, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

@Μετάknowledge, thanks for the ping. In progress, I should have this wrapped up later today. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 18:14, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

@Μετάknowledge -- After digging in, I ultimately lemmatized at 変てこ: the MS IME offers this as the only kanji conversion spelling, and the てこ (teko) latter element actually turns out to be only phonetic, and unrelated to the kanji 梃 (teko, “lever”).

I've removed the {{rfc}} from the 変梃 entry. Please have a look, and if all passes muster, we can strike this RFC item. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 23:59, 22 July 2020 (UTC)