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Latest comment: 13 years ago by AugPi in topic ̱

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Rfd-sense: For the International Phonetic Alphabet, it means "retraction," i.e. that the vowel in question is more back and less frontal than usual or expected.

This is wrong. The correct character would be ̠ (which is very similar, hence the likely confusion). -- Prince Kassad 22:36, 11 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

No idea, if you're sure about it just go for it, that's my take on the matter. --Mglovesfun (talk) 11:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Just to clarify, the nominated character is U+0331, COMBINING MACRON BELOW, while the one PK is suggesting for IPA use is U+0320, COMBINING MINUS SIGN BELOW. Unicode's comments on the characters imply that PK's right about use in IPA, and our entry for U+0320 already includes that info. I'm leaving a note on the creator's talkpage to try and find out whether it was created in error or whether, on the other hand, he really does think this character is used in the way described by the nominated sense.​—msh210 (talk) 16:55, 12 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
I would say, go ahead and delete that second sense. I probably just looked at an IPA chart and thought that the COMBINING MINUS SIGN BELOW looked like a COMBINING MACRON BELOW, and then assumed that it was, but evidently that is not the case according to the Wikipedia article (on relative articulation, section "Advanced and retracted"). —AugPi 20:00, 12 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Delete.​—msh210 (talk) 20:05, 12 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Deleting (and archiving).AugPi 20:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)Reply