Talk:Ἐρυθρὰ θάλασσα
Latest comment: 6 years ago by Angr
@Lingo Bingo Dingo: this should be moved at Ἐρυθρὰ θάλασσα (Eruthrà thálassa). --Barytonesis (talk) 14:32, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Barytonesis Done. Thanks for notifying me of my mistake. Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 14:39, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Lingo Bingo Dingo: you're welcome. I appreciate the fact that you're adding quotations, as I generally can't be arsed to do it myself. We could nominate a shitload of words at FWOTD! --Barytonesis (talk) 00:17, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Barytonesis I guess the spelling with final eta should be kept as an alternative form; this is the form that appears in Herodotus:
- Herodotus, Histories, 1.180.1, ed. by A. D. Godley, 1920.
- ἐτετείχιστο μέν νυν ἡ Βαβυλὼν τρόπῳ τοιῷδε, ἔστι δὲ δύο φάρσεα τῆς πόλιος. τὸ γὰρ μέσον αὐτῆς ποταμὸς διέργει, τῷ οὔνομα ἐστὶ Εὐφρήτης: ῥέει δὲ ἐξ Ἀρμενίων, ἐὼν μέγας καὶ βαθὺς καὶ ταχύς: ἐξιεῖ δὲ οὗτος ἐς τὴν Ἐρυθρὴν θάλασσαν.
- eteteíkhisto mén nun hē Babulṑn trópōi toiôide, ésti dè dúo phársea tês pólios. tò gàr méson autês potamòs diérgei, tôi oúnoma estì Euphrḗtēs: rhéei dè ex Armeníōn, eṑn mégas kaì bathùs kaì takhús: exieî dè hoûtos es tḕn Eruthrḕn thálassan.
- So Babylon has been fortified with a wall in this way, but there are two halves of the city. For a river, that is called the Euphrates, cuts through its middle; it streams from Armenia and it is large, deep and rapid; this river disembogues into the Indian Ocean.
- Herodotus, Histories, 1.180.1, ed. by A. D. Godley, 1920.
- There is also another form with final alpha and Attic thalatta. [1] Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 13:13, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Lingo Bingo Dingo: yes, I should have mentioned that possibility. So Ἐρυθρὰ θάλασσα would be Koine, Ἐρυθρὴ θάλασσα Ionian, Ἐρυθρὰ θάλαττα Attic. --Barytonesis (talk) 13:18, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Barytonesis Are there any rules regulating at what form the main entry should be? Is Attic or Koine preferred or is it whatever form has the most independent attestations? Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 13:24, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Lingo Bingo Dingo: I don't think we've reached a definitive answer to that question yet, but @Angr prefers to make the Koine form the lemma, if memory serves right. --Barytonesis (talk) 13:29, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- I do, simply because that seems to be the standard practice in other Ancient Greek dictionaries. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 13:32, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Lingo Bingo Dingo: I don't think we've reached a definitive answer to that question yet, but @Angr prefers to make the Koine form the lemma, if memory serves right. --Barytonesis (talk) 13:29, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Barytonesis Are there any rules regulating at what form the main entry should be? Is Attic or Koine preferred or is it whatever form has the most independent attestations? Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 13:24, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Lingo Bingo Dingo: yes, I should have mentioned that possibility. So Ἐρυθρὰ θάλασσα would be Koine, Ἐρυθρὴ θάλασσα Ionian, Ἐρυθρὰ θάλαττα Attic. --Barytonesis (talk) 13:18, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Barytonesis I guess the spelling with final eta should be kept as an alternative form; this is the form that appears in Herodotus:
- @Lingo Bingo Dingo: you're welcome. I appreciate the fact that you're adding quotations, as I generally can't be arsed to do it myself. We could nominate a shitload of words at FWOTD! --Barytonesis (talk) 00:17, 5 November 2017 (UTC)