Talk:قىزىل

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Latest comment: 3 years ago by Geographyinitiative in topic How does 黑 work in 黑孜葦/黑孜苇 (Hēizīwěi)?
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How does 黑 work in 黑孜葦黑孜苇 (Hēizīwěi)?

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"Kizil" قىزىل meaning "red" is usually transliterated into Chinese characters as "克孜勒" (Kezile), as in 克孜勒蘇克孜勒苏 (Kèzīlèsū) (Kizilsu) and 克孜勒陶 (Kizilto). So how did they choose the 黑 in 黑孜葦黑孜苇 (Hēizīwěi) (Kiziloy)? Is a Kyrgyz dialect thing? Historical reasons? The 葦 is matching the sound of 'oy'/'oi' meaning 'depression' or 'basin'. You can even see the 孜 character (zi) like we see in 克孜勒. But I don't see 黑 (hei) anywhere in "Kizil". Also, it is unusual to use a character that means "black" used to represent part of a word that means “red”, so that's why I'm thinking there may be some twisted kind of semantic connection- is 'kizil' a dark red? --Geographyinitiative (talk) 14:17, 8 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

黑孜 probably seems close enough to Kizil I guess, hence I made this edit [1]. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 14:24, 8 October 2020 (UTC)Reply