Talk:суждённый

@Atitarev Is this actually a PPP of судить? The listed PPP for that verb is су́женный, which follows Zaliznyak's rules. By his rules, обсудить should have a participle обсуждённый, likewise for присудить and осудить but not судить itself or other derivatives. Benwing2 (talk) 04:40, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

@Benwing2 Yes, it's the correct past passive participle. It's not very common but I can definitely confirm its usage for the figurative/poetic/dated sense - to predetermine, to destine. There's a big list of possible perfective equivalents with various subsenses. One of them is осуди́ть (osudítʹ), which has a common PPP - осуждённый (osuždjónnyj). The current PPP су́женный (súžennyj) refers to a completely different verb - су́зить (súzitʹ, “to narrow”) with an optional glottal stop after [s]. ruwikt's PPP is simply wrong, non-existent word.--Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 10:57, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

@Benwing2 Could also help convert the first usage example with a reference to {{ru-ux}}, please? "исключили+из+комсомола"+Поднятая+целина&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid1rWos6nLAhXMi5QKHSrVB50Q6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q="исключили из комсомола" Поднятая целина&f=false. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 11:06, 5 March 2016 (UTC)