Talk:стонать
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@Atitarev, Cinemantique, Wikitiki89, Wanjuscha, KoreanQuoter Hopefully you'll get this ping. Zaliznyak seems to indicate that стона́ю is the only 1a form of this verb, and that it's dated; the other forms (стона́ешь, стона́ет, etc.) don't seem to exist. Is this correct? ruwikt lists стона́ешь, стона́ет, ... and participle стона́ющий but not imperative стона́й/стона́йте. Benwing2 (talk) 15:38, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- ОК, various other dictionaries list стона́ешь, стона́ет, стона́ющий, стона́й, variously claiming that they're colloquial or dated. Benwing2 (talk) 16:19, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- OK but I wouldn't add the 1a forms to all derivatives automatically, without checking.--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 19:45, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- I did check застонать before adding the 1a forms. Ушаков says 1a forms are "прост.", which I take to mean "colloquial"; Ожегов says they're "устар."; Словарь трудностей произношения и ударения в современном русском языке says they're "устарелое". Benwing2 (talk) 05:00, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, BTW, there is some difference between просторе́чие (prostoréčije) and разгово́рное (razgovórnoje). The former is on the border between "non-standard" and "colloquial", not sure about the English equivalent for "просторечие". IMO, стона́ешь, etc. are просторечие, not just разговорная форма. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 05:06, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- I did check застонать before adding the 1a forms. Ушаков says 1a forms are "прост.", which I take to mean "colloquial"; Ожегов says they're "устар."; Словарь трудностей произношения и ударения в современном русском языке says they're "устарелое". Benwing2 (talk) 05:00, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- OK but I wouldn't add the 1a forms to all derivatives automatically, without checking.--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 19:45, 29 March 2016 (UTC)