Talk:русский

Russian hockey

How is Russian hockey used figuratively? it seems to me normal adjective. Mallerd 14:53, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think the user Mallerd still follows this question but for others: both русский хоккей and российский хоккей are OK, depends on the speaker's preference, situation or what needs to be highlighted. Yes, "русский" is both an adjective and a noun (declined as an adjective, of course). Figuratively? Not sure.--Atitarev 02:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

"ты что, не русский?"

I removed this phrase. It's used colloquially as a rhetorical question, when someone doesn't understand, although he/she is Russian. --Atitarev 02:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Noun fixed required

@Benwing2 The noun section and inflected forms need a fix, please. A "+" is missing in the headword, wrong forms have been generated. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 06:02, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

I have deleted the wrong forms. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 06:06, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, that was my error. I'll generate the proper forms. Thanks for deleting the bad forms. Benwing2 (talk) 06:14, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Regarding offensive slang

To clarify with one user known as @Moyprofile, I hate Nazism and I oppose the war against Ukraine. And yes, I am mentally well.

The reason why I added a bunch of terms he removed was because they are used in slang by Russian-speakers, even as they are anti-Russia extremists or trolls.

I would like others to suggest their stance regarding offensive Internet slang and derived terms at the entry. Should they be retained at this entry to document them, or be removed?

It is not much different from recording offensive terms and slurs like Хрюкраина, Салорейх, Уркаина, and Жидостан.

• рю́зге
• ру́ZZкий
• у́зкий

PulauKakatua19 (talk) 09:17, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

>The reason why I added a bunch of terms he removed was because they are used in slang by Russian-speakers, even as they are anti-Russia extremists or trolls.

Try finding the usage outside weird Eastern European nationalists.

>It is not much different from recording offensive terms and slurs like Хрюкраина, Салорейх, Уркаина, and Жидостан.

One difference is that the former are offensive words for countries, which implies the disagreement with the policies of such countries. The latter is for people and this is pure Nazi territory. But that's besides the point. The problem is not that but the fact that some of the slurs that you add are not even in use. Google the ones you mentioned adding site:pikabu.ru - the most popular Russian-speaking forum. Only Уркаина and Салорейх are in use.

If you're actually in good faith and is guided by Wiktionary's rules, adding Nazi slurs is okay, but the one thing that is striking for me as a native Russian speaker, is that some of the terms you add do not have "clearly widespread (common) use". A Russian speaker would have hard time even guessing what русорез, or русопят is. So it might break https://simple.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Criteria_for_inclusion. You probably met with all these terms at Ukrainian nationalist Twitter, can you give some evidence of the words being clearly widespread?

You mentioned Жидостан, I checked it with Pikabu, there are few mentions and this is what users wrote: "Я вот ничего не понял. Куда диван поворачивать? (с). "Жидостан" - это кто?", "Жидостан это что?". (translation: What is Жидостан?) https://pikabu.ru/story/denatsionalizatsiya_8939176 At least with this word people are more likely to guess what is meant than with русопят and русорез, which are really obscure.

To be sure if you follow the rules you can create a discussion about it here https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Discussion_rooms Moyprofile (talk) 10:32, 22 September 2024 (UTC)