Talk:должный
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Latest comment: 8 years ago by Stephen G. Brown
@Atitarev, Cinemantique, Wikitiki89 ruwiki claims the short fem sg adj of должный is до́лжна, whereas we claim it's должна́. Which is correct? Or both? Benwing2 (talk) 10:53, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- "должна́" is definitely correct ("(she) must" or "(she) owes"), there may be some obscure usage for "до́лжна" but I don't know it. I think it's probably just a mistake in ruwiki. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:21, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. I figured there might be a difference in forms because short adj до́лжно is different from predicative должно́. Benwing2 (talk) 11:31, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- "должно́" is also correct as a predicative and "до́лжно" as a short adj form (according to some sources) and (dated) = ну́жно, сле́дует, необходи́мо. (I am a bit confused now.) --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:48, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Benwing2, Cinemantique, Wikitiki89 It seems I am not the only one confused about what dictionaries say about the difference between "должно́" and "до́лжно". Here's the topic: [1]. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:54, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Cinemantique The article mentions ruwiki, criticising for misleading users together with gramota.ru :) Also calling @Stephen G. Brown, Wanjuscha, Vahagn Petrosyan, sorry, it seems должно needs some attention. I could use some help there. Do you agree with the author of the topic?
- @Benwing2, Cinemantique, Wikitiki89 It seems I am not the only one confused about what dictionaries say about the difference between "должно́" and "до́лжно". Here's the topic: [1]. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:54, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- "должно́" is also correct as a predicative and "до́лжно" as a short adj form (according to some sources) and (dated) = ну́жно, сле́дует, необходи́мо. (I am a bit confused now.) --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:48, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. I figured there might be a difference in forms because short adj до́лжно is different from predicative должно́. Benwing2 (talk) 11:31, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Her conclusion:
- до́лжно
- наречие, слово категории состояния – сказуемое в предложении односоставном безличном;
- наречие – обстоятельство образа действия;
- должно́
- наречие – вводное слово;
- краткое прилагательное – сказуемое в предложениях двусоставном и односоставном безличном.
--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 12:04, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- I agree with the author. In my experience, должно́ is much more common. —Stephen (Talk) 14:48, 2 January 2016 (UTC)