Talk:абы

1. Ozhegov and Shvedova dictionary, that I have in paper (1999) says, that ‘aby’ has no stress.
2. I think that etymology of meanings ‘so that’ and ‘if only’ may be different, and the former probably comes from the shortening of Old Slavonic ‘дабы’ = modern ‘чтобы’ (‘daby’ = ‘so’ in the sense of ‘so that’ or ‘in order to’).
3. Cite for aby = ‘if only’ http://search1.ruscorpora.ru/search.xml?env=alpha&mycorp=&mysent=&mysize=&mysentsize=&mydocsize=&dpp=&spp=&spd=&text=lexform&mode=main&sort=gr_tagging&lang=ru&nodia=1&req=%E0%E1%FB&p=9&docid=49083
4. For ‘so that’ I can remember only the phrase ‘абы не как у москалей’ which is of Ukrainian origin and probably sounds as ‘абы не як у москалiв’ in Ukrainian. There is also another quote in the National corpora of Russian language in which ‘абы’ has a meaning of ‘so that’ – http://search1.ruscorpora.ru/search.xml?env=alpha&mycorp=&mysent=&mysize=&mysentsize=&mydocsize=&dpp=&spp=&spd=&text=lexform&mode=main&sort=gr_tagging&lang=ru&nodia=1&req=%E0%E1%FB%20%FF&docid=112304 Here it translates to: ‘As I see, you’re a fine boy, handsome, I’d say, whitey, but those writer’s pants you better not wear, so that I would never see them…’ – again having ‘хлопчик’, ‘гарный’, ‘шаровары’, ‘писарские’ – the words of Ukrainian language. I’m leading to the thought, that ‘абы’ in the sense of ‘so that’ may probably only be used in Russian language when it quotes Ukrainian.

Deterenkelt (talk) 12:13, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

@Atitarev, Cinemantique, Wikitiki89, Wanjuscha, KoreanQuoter Can you review the comments and changes by this user? Benwing2 (talk) 15:24, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

I guess this is similar to кабы (kaby). Ru.wikt says that it's either unstressed or lightly stressed on the first syllable, except in the phrase е́сли бы да кабы́ (jésli by da kabý) (and I copied this information to our entry). So I suspect that here абы (aby) is also usually unstressed but can be lightly stressed on either syllable. --WikiTiki89 15:25, 1 May 2017 (UTC)