Talk:Южный океан
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Latest comment: 9 years ago by Stephen G. Brown
@Benwing2 Please note my edit. Only the declinable parts should be fed into {{ru-decl-noun-see}}
. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 10:27, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Atitarev I'd prefer to have the actual declension table, like it was before, rather than just cross-refs to the individual words. I have module code that enables automatic generation of multi-part declension tables; at some point soon I'll push it live. Benwing2 (talk) 10:30, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- There's need for this. Editors should waste less time providing declensions of multipart words. Genitive and accusative (animate) also need special transliteration. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 10:47, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- So we will have articles "Красную площадь" and "Российской Федерации", won't we? It seems to be strange and redundant.--Cinemantique (talk) 10:48, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- Cinemantique, it would be redundant for native Russians, but articles in English Wiktionary are intended for native English-speakers. This is not redundant for American students of the language, who often find Russian declension intimidating and confusing. —Stephen (Talk) 05:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Stephen G. Brown With all due respect, I disagree. It's impossible to provide inflections of all combinations and there's no need. Students should learn to look up individual words in a sentence, not expect that every expression or word combination will be declined for them. It is redundant, not just for native speakers. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:45, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- I’m not suggesting that we should do it for every word combination, just common phrases such as Тихий океан and Российская Федерация. That’s good teaching material. —Stephen (Talk) 12:05, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Stephen G. Brown With all due respect, I disagree. It's impossible to provide inflections of all combinations and there's no need. Students should learn to look up individual words in a sentence, not expect that every expression or word combination will be declined for them. It is redundant, not just for native speakers. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:45, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Cinemantique, it would be redundant for native Russians, but articles in English Wiktionary are intended for native English-speakers. This is not redundant for American students of the language, who often find Russian declension intimidating and confusing. —Stephen (Talk) 05:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC)