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Latest comment: 2 years ago by Thadh in topic Inflection
Inflection
[edit]According to what I was taught in the Tver Karelian course I attended, the elative should be "šanašta" and the translative "šanakši". I'm not sure about the genitive and partitive plural, they might or might not also be wrong. Mölli-Möllerö (talk) 06:07, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Mölli-Möllerö:: If you have any material on Tver inflection, feel free to help building the infrastructure of Karelian inflection-tables (perhaps we should split these into
{{krl-decl-N}}
,{{krl-decl-S}}
and{{krl-decl-T}}
). The only sources I could as of now find focus either on the Cyrillic Karelian, North Karelian, Literary Karelian of the 1930s [which seems to be some kind of South Karelian, but I am hesitant to classify it] or Livvi, I couldn't find any Tver or South Karelian grammar. Considerable <s> ~ <š> variation is present in simply North Karelian (as per Karlova's Vienankarjalan alkeiskuršši (2011)), but I'm not sure how we should handle it (and it has the same problem of -sta vs -šta and -ssa vs -šša); I don't think I'll have the time to focus on both Karelian and Ingrian cleanup at the same time, but should you want to proceed with this I can share the material I found if you need it. Thadh (talk) 13:36, 23 April 2021 (UTC)- I found some material for Tver Karelian: https://национальнаяполитика.рф/media/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%83%D0%BA%D0%B0%20-%20%D0%98%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5%20%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8B/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%8F/%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BA_Miun_harpaukset_v_petcat.pdf --Mölli-Möllerö (talk) 12:39, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Nice! By the way, you might be interested in this discussion and the fact we decided to lemmatise on vienankarjala. Thadh (talk) 12:54, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- I found some material for Tver Karelian: https://национальнаяполитика.рф/media/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%83%D0%BA%D0%B0%20-%20%D0%98%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5%20%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8B/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%8F/%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BA_Miun_harpaukset_v_petcat.pdf --Mölli-Möllerö (talk) 12:39, 17 March 2022 (UTC)