Reconstruction talk:Proto-West Germanic/balwa-

Prefix ?

@Sokkjo, is this a true prefix or just a combining form (compound) with *balu ? Cf. we don't currently list Old English bealu- as a prefix Leasnam (talk) 01:31, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

If you see the etymology, I think it's actually a calque of Latin prefix male-, and was chiefly productive in OE and OS. -- Sokkjō 01:40, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

That doesn't answer the question... Leasnam (talk) 02:16, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

(edit conflict) An adverb- + noun is usually pretty indicative of a prefix. There are examples of the noun + suffix though , like Middle High German balheit. The point of mentioning the Latin is that it's a valid Latin prefix. -- Sokkjō 02:51, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

<<An adverb- + noun is usually pretty indicative of a prefix>> You sound like me...back in the day. Well, at one time long ago I would have agreed with you, but *Not Wiktionary*. I've watched as my ere-, ever-, side-, fore-, back-, ill-, far-, wide-, other-, full-, many- prefixes were deleted (some have been restored after a long fight), but some here will argue that an adverb + noun does not make a prefix. When they did a cleanup of my Old English prefixes, if the prefix could stand alone as an adverb, adjective, or noun it was not considered a true prefix. According to what they did, Proto-West Germanic *balwa- would not pass their test either, nor would any of *balwa-'s descendants. I don't disagree with you, but if they allow *balwa- to stand, someone owes me an apology. Leasnam (talk) 03:12, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

...also, saying that it is a prefix in Latin also shouldn't work either...I made that argument (or one similar to it) a thousand times. Leasnam (talk) 03:14, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Sokkjo, I'm only bringing this up because the page Proto-West Germanic *balwa- is forcing me to admit Old English bealu- as a prefix, which they won't allow (as I'm sure it existed before and was removed [though I can't find the history of it now]), and if Old English bealu- isn't a prefix, then neither is Proto-West Germanic *balwa-, so, you see my reasoning and dilemma ? Leasnam (talk) 03:16, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Why not ping them? -- Sokkjō 03:23, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

No. I'm going to stand with you, and use this as the justification for bringing them all back. Leasnam (talk) 23:17, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

😂 -- Sokkjō 23:24, 22 June 2024 (UTC)