Reconstruction talk:Proto-Japonic/sin-

Needs reworking

Some authors derive modern shinu from shi + inu, so having shinu and inu both as derivations of this hypothetical proto form is a right mess. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 00:50, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

I stand corrected. *inu can be removed. mellohi! (僕の乖離) 01:54, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

@Kwékwlos, the Proto form should probably be sinu, if we can reconstruct this to the Proto stage. inu is a wholly separate, albeit possibly related, verb, which is not in any way a descendant of Proto sinu -- if anything, it might be a further etymon, if sinu is indeed a fusion of si (“death”, from Chinese) + inu (“go away; pass, as in time; die; rot”). ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 00:16, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

To be fair, I have no certainty that PJ has *si inu or *sinu, since the latter could have existed as a verb before PJ split. Given the semantics they are obviously related, and that the similarity with the Chinese term may be entirely accidental, rather than borrowing. Kwékwlos (talk) 05:57, 4 March 2020 (UTC)