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Latest comment: 6 years ago by RichardW57 in topic NT AA Dispute

NT AA Dispute

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@Octahedron80, @Wyang: There is currently a dispute as to whether certain words normally have round AA or tall AA in Northern Thai Pali. I think we will have to gather evidence to resolve that dispute, which may take a long time. In the mean time, we have 19 disputed transliterations showing up as errors, and hiding a 20th reported error which I believe we will all agree is an error, though arguably an unimportant one.

I therefore propose the following temporary solution:

  • For the disputed transliterations, add fields
    • l_alt containing the other transliteration.
    • l_alt_just briefly explaining why someone believes the other transliteration is the 'correct' one.
  • If the generated transliteration matches neither the transliteration in l or l_alt, report all four of l, l_just, l_alt and l_alt_just in the expected column.
  • If the generated transliteration matches l or l_alt, and both exist, report nothing for the test result.

Ideally, we would show an amber symbol for the test result if the generated transliteration matched field l or field l_alt, but that may be too much work, and might be contrary to Wiktionary policy.

We probably need to mention the dispute on the documentation page. However, apart form that, the 20 errors should immediately reduce to 1 and then fairly quickly reduce to no Tai Tham errors as the clear error is removed. RichardW57 (talk) 14:18, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

I have attempted to give examples of rare syllables both at the start of a word and in the middle. This is because the transliteration might be different in different positions. I have seen no indication that this matters for Tai Tham. It may therefore be possible to comment the Tai Tham tests out for some of these words and, if relevant, replace them, for the round v. tall AA question, by a simpler and commoner word. When the dispute is resolved, the 'l_just' field can be updated to record why the AA has the shape it does, so that this dispute does not have to be needlessly re-resolved. RichardW57 (talk) 14:18, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply