Module talk:ny-IPA/testcases

@Metaknowledge Ready for more testcases. DTLHS (talk) 07:36, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

@DTLHS: I was going to avoid marking implosivity, because there are some words in which they are explosive. If we choose to do that, there needs to be something like b' and d' as inputs for /b/ and /d/ respectively. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 19:02, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

I just tried to match what was on the Wikipedia page. Change anything you want. DTLHS (talk) 19:04, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Could you explain the last test case? Why is "zaʷmɓá a single syllable? DTLHS (talk) 19:31, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

@DTLHS: Sorry, I messed that one up. I fixed it and added stress markers to all the multisyllabic ones. Primary stress is always penultimate (technically not phonemic, as it never varies, but I thought it'd be good to have in the transcription). And I think it would actually be good to add b' and d' as described above. Thank you! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 03:06, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge "/ɓa.ᵐpʷʰe.ⁿtʰiˈŋʷó.d͡zʷu/ " is correct? DTLHS (talk) 03:42, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, besides being absurd. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 06:57, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Could you add some actual words to the list? DTLHS (talk) 20:06, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Sure! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 20:10, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

I added one that should work once b' and d' are added, the others being to test syllabification. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 20:39, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge Should this have a head / h parameter? DTLHS (talk) 22:40, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

@DTLHS: No, the template is fed with a slightly respelled version already. Anyway, it looks all good! Thank you so much! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 22:42, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Wait, it still needs d' for /d/. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 22:45, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Examples please (and b') DTLHS (talk) 22:49, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Seems to be working. One test is failing, but we don't actually need the module to be able to handle majuscules; they can just be respelled. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 22:59, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

No, it's failing because of some issue with m'. DTLHS (talk) 23:00, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge In multiword items should each word get its own stress (I assume not based on the test case you provided)? DTLHS (talk) 23:01, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

I wasn't being careful with the testcases, sorry. It's sort of an ambiguous case, but I think that each word should get its own stress. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 01:35, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

• Why are some pages, like njinga, being placed into CAT:IPA pronunciations with invalid IPA characters? —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 18:21, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

• • We seem to be using the wrong "g". DTLHS (talk) 18:37, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

    Thanks for explaining that; I can try fixing it myself. Also, I added another failed testcase, which I can't fix. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 18:51, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge Is "ɡ" the correct character? DTLHS (talk) 19:58, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

For IPA, yes. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 19:58, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

@Wyang The superscript parentheses you added aren't valid IPA characters. Are there other characters that should be used instead? DTLHS (talk) 01:09, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I don't know. Superscript parentheses suit superscript letters better though, in my opinion. Wyang (talk) 08:46, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge Could you explain the rules for the new test case? (also change the test cases for ⁽ᵝ⁾ if you're ready) DTLHS (talk) 03:15, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

ḿ and ń should always be treated as ḿ' and ń' (i.e. when they have tone, they always constitute a separate syllable). I'll leave the matter of /β/ up to you, if that's okay. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 03:21, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

OK, that was simple enough. DTLHS (talk) 03:22, 22 November 2016 (UTC)