Module talk:ka-IPA
Interesting module :) But, what about ხ and ღ which are according to w:Georgian_language#Consonants [x] and [ɣ] ? Shouldn't this module break if used with words containing ჶ, ჹ, and ჴ? Perhaps it should be best to add support them as well, and enclose the generated pronunciation within square brackets [] to represent broad phonetic transcription. Is stress predictable in Georgian words? --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 08:50, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
- I have no idea, and how should I have one? Even scientists argue ("Opinions differ on how to classify /x/ and /ɣ/; Aronson (1990) classifies them as post-velar, Hewitt (1995) argues that they range from velar to uvular according to context, and many other scholars[who?] treat the phonemes as purely velar. Opinions also differ on the aspiration of /t͡s, t͡ʃ/." <- from wiki).
- It won't break (no red warnings), but yes I should add these letters, my bad.
- Square brackets for broad phonetic transcription? wiki page says slashes are used for broads. Also, why are we sure the transcription we use is broad?
- Yes. It is (at least usually) on the first syllable. But, even if it were not predictable we wouldn't have to make the stress explicitly indicated in IPAs due to its little importance (Some may argue we don't have stresses)--user:Dixtosa 15:33, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry I meant narrow(er) phonetic transcription. When I'm in sleep-deprived mode sometimes I think one thing and write another... Phonemic transcription is by definition broad. However, we could assume that [qʰ] ჴ, [ɢ] ჹ, and [f] ჶ and marginal phonemes and problem solved. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 21:37, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Putting /phonemic/ under "more"
[edit]Hi @User:Benwing2,
Following PUC's suggestion earlier, is there a way to put phonemic transcriptions under a collapsed menu, as for example is done with various pronunciations of Spanish pollo?
For Georgian especially /phonemic/ is already very close to [phonetic] in most cases, and I question the need to display the former by default. I actually removed /phonemic/ at one point but somebody missed it enough to put it back, so the above solution seems better. Nicodene (talk) 07:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Nicodene Yes, this is done for Spanish and Portuguese, and also for Ancient Greek, where the pronunciations of various eras are collapsed. Are you able to implement this by reference to one of the above modules, or do you need help? Benwing2 (talk) 07:46, 26 February 2024 (UTC)