Module talk:Mong-translit
Add topicImprovements for transliterations of the letter Ga (ᠭ)
[edit]Does any code-savvy person have the ability to make some of these changes based on the examples mentioned below ("→...✓")? User:Theknightwho or User:LibCae?
Transliterations "ɣ" vs "g"
[edit]The letter Ga (ᠭ) can be transliterated more precisely than right now: before consonants and when final-shaped, and to go along with its intended context-sensitive shaping.
Ga should be (and is seems to currently be)
- "ɣ"-transliterated when accurately gimel-heth-shaped (currently before back vowels a, o, u):
- gimel-heth initially:
/ medially:
or
or
/ finally:
.
- gimel-heth initially:
- "g"-transliterated when accurately kaph-shaped (currently before front vowels e, ö, ü, and neutral i):
- kaph initially/medially:
/ finally:
.
- kaph initially/medially:
Context and sources are from Wikipedia's W:Mongolian script, W:Ga (Mongolic), and also bolor-toli.com.
Examples
[edit]- Initial g-C consonant clusters (the W:Galik alphabet letter Ka (ᢉ) should probably not be used here):
- Medial ɣ/g-C consonant clusters:
- Final ɣ/g or final-shaped ɣ:
- цаг / ᠴᠠᠭ • (čag) čag✗→čaɣ✓ 'time'
- цэг / ᠴᠡᠭ • (čeg) čeg✓ 'point, dot' (intentionally or unintentionally transliterated correctly?)
- иг / ᠢᠭ • (ig) ig✓ 'spinning wheel'
- бага / ᠪᠠᠭᠠ • (bag-a) bag-a✗→baɣ-a✓ 'small, little, young, low'
- зарлиг / ᠵᠠᠷᠯᠢᠭ • (ǰarlig) ǰarlig✗→ǰarliɣ✓ 'decree, edict'
- цэрэг / ᠴᠡᠷᠢᠭ • (čerig) čerig✓ 'army'
Tangentially / for a later date?
[edit]Tangentially there are these two variants of a vowel harmony dependent particle (siɣ and sig) that maybe(?) are intended to be produced with different finals with a preceding NNBSP (otherwise suffix-separating & suffix-shaping), but I don't know. Does anyone else? Again see W:Ga (Mongolic).
- шиг alt. 1.1 / ᠰᠢᠭ • (sig) (here with a final ᠭ only)
- шиг alt. 1.2 / ᠰᠢᠭ᠋ • (sig) (here with a final ᠭ+FVS1)
- шиг alt. 2.1 / ᠭᠠ ᠰᠢᠭ • (ɣa-sig) (here with NNBSP and a final ᠭ only)
- шиг alt. 2.2 / ᠭᠡ ᠰᠢᠭ • (ge-sig) (here with NNBSP and a final ᠭ only)
- Final ᠭ+FVS1 should produce a kaph shape according to the latest Unicode tech report UTR #45 that documents the latest glyph variants (https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr54/tr54-1.html → https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr54/, as mentioned in https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1800.pdf)