Appendix talk:Russian stress patterns - nouns

4, 5

4 (d) and 5 (e) appear to be identical. Is one of them mismarked? —Stephen 22:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. Now fixed. --Vahagn Petrosyan 22:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Zaliznyak

Is there an explanation somewhere for Zaliznyak’s grammatical codes? For instance, for огонь Zaliznyak says 3 м 2*в. I understand the meaning of м and в, but what do '3', '2', and '*' mean? I can’t find an explanation. —Stephen 11:26, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

You can find the preface to Zaliznyak's dictionary at [1] under the header Грамматические сведения, where it's all explained. To summarize, he defines 8 declension types for all Russian nouns [2], [3], depending on the ending of something called графическая основа (usually derived by removing last vowel, if present):

1. ending in an ordinary consonant: завод, час, зуб, похвал(а), карт(а), коров(а), болот(о)

2. ending in ь, я, е: голубь, конь, неделя, стезя, горе, поле

3. ending in a velar (г, к, х): мальчик, носорог, собак(а), книг(а), благ(о)

4. ending in a sibilant (ж, ч, ш, щ): нож, туч(а), жилищ(е)

5. ending in ц: конец, улиц(а), солнц(е)

6. ending in й or vowel: соловей, стату(я), здани(е)

7. ending in и: кали(й), лини(я).

8. путь (the only word of this type)

The "2" in 3 м 2*в for огонь points to 2nd declension, * means огонь is reduced to огн- in declension, 3 means that the third letter is stressed in the basic form (ie : the form you find in the dictionary; without declensions, endings and so on). Anyway, this is not relevant for our declension patterns, as for picking the right one it's necessary to know animateness/inanimateness + ending (and not Zaliznyak's number) + stress pattern number (this is where his dictionary comes in handy). Example: {{ru-noun-inan-sib-5}} is for inanimate nouns ending in a sibilant belonging to 5th stress pattern (овощ), {{ru-noun-anim-vel-а-1}} is for animate nouns ending in a velar+ а belonging to 1st stress pattern (девочка). All of this, of course, I am going to explain somewhere, as soon as I finish making all templates.

As for my organization of templates under 1-7 ("T" is being emptied out) declension types in Category:Russian noun inflection-table templates, it has no practical purpose, just one method of organization.--Vahagn Petrosyan 07:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

b' & f"

In what sense are люб́овь and гр́удь stressed on the ending? There are no endings here, just pure stems. 195.187.108.4 13:41, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

The term endings refers to the suffixed endings added in most of the declined forms. In most cases in these two words, the ending attracts the stress.

любо́вь, любви́, любви́, любо́вь, любо́вью, любви́.

гру́дь, груди́, груди́, гру́дь, гру́дью, груди́. —Stephen ^(Talk) 05:04, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Accusitive Plural

Hi, the accusative plural appears to be missing. — This unsigned comment was added by 2A02:C7D:AFA8:300:FDCB:BF10:5843:6E8B (talk).

That is because the accusative plural is always the same as the nominative plural in inanimate nouns, and the genitive plural in animate nouns. Benwing2 (talk) 02:05, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Alternative Table Layout

	The Stress Falls on:
Pattern Letter	a		b		b '		c		d		d '		e		f		f '		f ' '
Number	sg	pl	sg	pl	sg	pl	sg	pl	sg	pl	sg	pl	sg	pl	sg	pl	sg	pl	sg	pl
N	stem	stem	ending	ending	ending	ending	stem	ending	ending	stem	ending	stem	stem	stem	ending	stem	ending	stem	ending	stem
A	stem		ending		ending		stem		ending		stem		stem		ending		stem		ending
G	stem	stem	ending	ending	ending	ending	stem	ending	ending	stem	ending	stem	stem	ending	ending	ending	ending	ending	ending	ending
D	stem	stem	ending	ending	ending	ending	stem	ending	ending	stem	ending	stem	stem	ending	ending	ending	ending	ending	ending	ending
I	stem	stem	ending	ending	stem	ending	stem	ending	ending	stem	ending	stem	stem	ending	ending	ending	ending	ending	stem	ending
P	stem	stem	ending	ending	ending	ending	stem	ending	ending	stem	ending	stem	stem	ending	ending	ending	ending	ending	ending	ending
Example	мото́р		вещество́		любо́вь		слой		игра́		душа́		ко́рень		слеза́		гора́		грудь

— This unsigned comment was added by 2A02:C7D:AFA8:300:FDCB:BF10:5843:6E8B (talk).

Thank you, I've adopted a variant of this. Benwing2 (talk) 02:05, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Neuter Nouns: Stress Pattern B Exceptions

Is the list of exceptions meant to be comprehensive or just a sample? Should, for example, товарищество be included here? 193.56.252.180 09:34, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

това́рищество (továriščestvo) is a straightforward most common pattern-a noun, not an exception. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 07:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

To answer your question, I expanded it to be as comprehensive a possible without rare words rarely encountered (i.e. to be quite complete, but also be helpful to the non-native speakers, such as myself). In hindsight, perhaps too bold of a task for a Wiktionary appendix, but hopefully it's helpful to someone. --1998alexkane (talk) 13:34, 15 February 2023 (UTC)