Appendix talk:Proto-Bantu concords
Add topicMissing forms
[edit]@Metaknowledge I created this table to give an overview of the prefixes. Even though the possessive forms are not single morphemes, I included them anyway because the vowels tend to fuse in the descendants. There are some forms that I'm not sure about, though, because the different sources you gave me seem to conflict:
- Class 4 PPx is *gí- according to "The Bantu Languages", with a high vowel, while Meeussen has *gɪ́- with a near-high vowel. I'm inclined to think the latter is more plausible because it has the same vowel as the noun prefix. However, class 5 must have such a discrepancy to account for Zulu li-.
- Class 7 PPx is *kí- according to TBL, and here the high vowel is even more striking as it's the only difference between it and the NPx. Meeussen, again, has *kɪ́-. I wonder which of these two would give Zulu si-.
- Is there really a height difference between the PPx of classes 9 and 10?
—CodeCat 00:28, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
- Trust what's in TBL over BGR, which is outdated. Also, you still need to add the enumerative prefixes to the table. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:51, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
- I chose not to add them because they're not very well reconstructed, from what I've gathered. —CodeCat 01:01, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Moved pages
[edit]@Rua, Metaknowledge I moved the pages *kí- and *gí- to *kɪ́- and *gɪ́- respectively. I also took care of all the links to those pages. Although Rua says that they have a high vowel in The Bantu Languages, I'm looking at it now and it has a near-high vowel. Understandable, it can be quite hard to see the difference! Further, the descendants of these prefixes show that the vowel must have been near-high. This is because of the lack of spirantization in Nguni, Swahili, Luganda, and other languages with Bantu Spirantization. Also, Sotho-Tswana languages preserve the vowel /ɪ/ in these prefixes. Smashhoof (talk) 23:26, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:29, 18 April 2019 (UTC)