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Latest comment: 2 years ago by Biolongvistul in topic When to use each declension?

Third declension, ευ-stems

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Genitive:

  • "Genitive singular: -έως in Attic with quantitative metathesis, but -έος in all other dialects."
    LSJ has "Ἐρεχθεύς, έως, Ep. ῆος, ὁ, an ancient hero of Attica". That should mean that there is a third genitive form -ῆος, which is missing here.

Accusative:

  • "-έᾱ in Attic-Ionic with quantitative metathesis, but -έᾰ in most other dialects"
    H. W. Smyth's grammar has "Acc. βασιλέ-ᾱ" and the note "In the drama from words in -εύς we find rarely -έᾰ in acc. sing.". That sounds like -έᾰ does rarely occur in Attic too.

-80.133.123.144 11:07, 10 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

length of alpha in accusative plural and singular

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  • Wiktionary's appendix with Buck as single references: "Accusative singular: [...] -έᾱ in Attic-Ionic with quantitative metathesis, but -έᾰ in most other dialects" and "Accusative plural: -έᾱς in Attic-Ionic, -έᾰς in most other dialects".
  • Heribert Weir Smyth, A Greek grammar for colleges, 1920 (ccel.org), p. 69 f.: "[Sg.] Acc. βασιλέ-ᾱ" and "[Pl.] Acc. βασιλέ-ᾱς"
  • Carl Darling Buck, Introduction to the study of the Greek dialects: grammar, selected inscriptions, glossary. Revised edition, 1928 (archive.org), p. 85 f.: "Attic only are [..] βασιλέᾱ, with quantitative metathesis." and "Acc. Sg. -έα in Ionic, Locrian, Cretan", and "Acc. Pl. -έαs in Ionic and Doric"
  • Raphael Kühner, Friedrich Blass, Ausführliche Grammatik der griechischen Sprache. Erster Teil: Elementar- und Formenlehre. Dritte Auflage in zwei Bänden in neuer Bearbeitung. Erster Band., 1890 (archive.org), p. 447 ff.: "[Attische Mundart:] [...] S. A. βασιλέ-ᾱ [...] P. A. βασιλέ-ᾱς" and "Neuionische Mundart: [...] έ-ᾰ [...] βασιλέ-ᾰς [...]"

Kühner and Blass clearly state the alpha is long in Attic but short in "New Ionic", i.e. Ionic. "Old Ionic" does refer to Ionic used in Epic and so also in Homer's work (which is not pure Old Ionic but a mixture of dialects). Buck also states the alpha is long in Attic but short in Ionic. -16:09, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

When to use each declension?

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Could you, please, explain, how to identify the declension paradigm a word must follow?

I have been researching about Matthew 6:11 and Luke 11:3.

According to https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/οὐσία#Inflection, the word οὐσία (or, οὐσίᾱ, I don´t know whether they are the same or not) must follow the 1st. declension model.

But, the Ancient Greek text uses the 2nd. declension model:

Τὸν ἄρτον ἡμῶν τὸν ἐπιούσιον δὸς ἡμῖν σήμερον.

The bread of-us the epiousion give us today.

I would really appreciate your help. I am quite lost and perplexed.

George Rodney Maruri Game (talk) 15:00, 23 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

I wish I could help you. Perhaps you could ask on a user’s talkpage? That isn’t really its intended use but I think most would do you this favour. Try asking user Aearthrise. Biolongvistul (talk) 19:18, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply