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Reconstructed Illyrian entries

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Hello, Balltari! Thank you for your contributions to Wiktionary, in particular I appreciate your work on Illyrian entries. As you probably know, Wiktionary is an entirely volunteer project, so it is good to have your help!

A few reminders and pieces of advice as you continue to contribute. First, the template {{reconstructed}} should be placed at the top of any pages that you create for reconstructed Illyrian terms in the future. See my change to Illyrian *di for an example. Second, reconstruction is generally only possible when a reconstructed term has descendants. Using Illyrian *Dimallum as an example, what reasons lead use to believe that this term existed? If there are terms in Greek or Latin that are derived from *Dimallum and support its existence they should be listed in a "Descendants" section. For examples see Proto-West Germanic *laubijā and Illyrian *Gentius, where Lumbardhia added the descendants. Lastly, if you are using other sources to help you create entries, please remember to cite them. It is good to see that you have already cited Adrian Room's "Place Names of the World" at *is-lo and Vladimir Orel's Albanian Etymological Dictionary at *rhinos.

Finally I want to end by once again thanking you for your work and I hope you take care. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 20:41, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Removing RFDs

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Removing WT:RFD is a blockable offence. If you wish to address any RPDs levied at an entry, please see the discussion linked atop the entry. – Sokkjō 06:37, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

  • Hey @Chuck Entz, we've gotten to the point where instead of replying to RPDs, this user just occationally logs in and reverts them. I think they need a block. – Sokkjō 07:16, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
    • Agreed. I blocked them longer than I normally would because this is really just a symptom of larger problems related to pushing fringe theories and ignorance of historical linguistics. I've just blocked them from the main and Reconstruction namespaces for now so they can still discuss things, and the duration of the block can be changed.
    Removing rfds and rfvs from an entry is a really dumb thing to do, anyway, because it has no effect on the rfd itself. Entries can, and do get deleted without the notice being on the entry page, and demonstrating bad faith doesn't help in the deliberations. Chuck Entz (talk) 15:39, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
As an aside, @Sokkjo, do you plan plan on starting discussions for all of the entries you have tagged with {{rfd}}? For example, *Redon was tagged in January, but I can't find a corresponding discussion. I see that you've previously created discussions for other entries like *sika (as archived at Reconstruction talk:Illyrian/sika) and *Drūn (as currently located at WT:RFD). Have you not created the discussions yet because you are planning to create a larger scope discussion at some point to mass delete all Illyrian reconstructed entries created by Balltari, as suggest in a discussion about making Illyrian an etymology-only language? If so, I would think it would make sense to wait until that discussion is started before tagging the entries. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 06:03, 26 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Done: WT:Requests for deletion/Reconstruction#Reconstruction:Illyrian/Agron. – Sokkjō 23:43, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Good stuff, thank you. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 00:41, 28 March 2023 (UTC)Reply